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Who Is The Roman Catholic Church Really Worshiping?

This study will reveal the meaning of the symbols, statues and attire used by the Pope and priests, as they reveal what the Papal Church is really worshiping.

For thousands of years Pagan religions have used symbols to show which gods they worshiped.  These symbols were declared openly in Egypt, Babylon, Rome and other cultures.

These symbols are still used today, but their true meanings are hidden.

Most people typically don’t notice the symbol or they have a positive impression of it.

The enlightened understand the meaning behind the symbols, and they use them to communicate with others.

Leaders of a Christian Church should not have anything to do with the symbols of pagan gods.

For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God.” 2 Corinthians 6:14,16

If you’re Catholic, ask yourself why the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church are using all of these symbols of pagan gods.

The Zucchetti which is worn by Catholic priests, cardinals and the Pope, represents respect, fear and submission to Cybele, the Mother Goddess of Rome.

The Cap of CybeleThe Cap of Cybele is one of the oldest and most sacred pagan religious symbols of humanity, dating back to 2,000 B.C.

The skull cap was worn by the sun priests of Egypt.

It is a thin, slightly rounded skullcap now commonly known by various titles including the Yarmulke (Jewish) and Kufi (Muslims).

The Roman Catholic Church calls it the Zucchetti.

Vatican Hill was the site of the largest ancient temple to Cybele.  Ashtoreth the goddess of fertility, sexuality and war; was known as Cybele in Rome.

The Bible warns against worshiping her, “Then the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served the Baals and the Ashtoreths.” Judges 10:6

The Bible declares “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God.” 1 Corinthians 11:7

Ask yourself, why do Catholic priests, Bishops and the Pope, wear the Cap of Cybele?

The Mitre hat that is worn by Catholic priests, cardinals and the Pope, represents Dagon the Babylonian fish god.

The Mitre hat that is worn by Catholic priests, cardinals and the Pope, represents Dagon the Babylonian fish god.The ancient Babylonians worshiped Dagan, the god of agriculture, plenty (food) and good fortune.

The Babylonian priests wore a headdress that represented the worship of Cybele and Dagon. It featured an open-fish mouth on the head, with the rest of the fish body forming a cloak.

In the Roman Empire, it was worn by the head priest of Cybele (the Magna Mater) or the Great Queen Mother Goddess.

Today the Catholic Cardinals, Bishops and the Pope all wear the open fish-mouth mitre, which represents the worship of Cybele and Dagon.

The Mitre hat of Dagan is always worn over the Kippa of Ashtoreth/Cybele, as you can see in the picture of Pope Francis I.

God warned the Jews not to worship the gods of Babylon, ” I will pronounce My judgments on them concerning all their wickedness, whereby they have forsaken Me and have offered sacrifices to other gods, and worshiped the works of their own hands.” Jeremiah 1:16

Ask yourself, why do Catholic Cardinals, Bishops and the Pope, all wear the mitre of Dagan?

The Obelisk in St. Peter’s Square represents the worship of the Sun god.

The Obelisk in St. Peter's Square represents the worship of the Son god.Obelisks were prominent in the architecture of the ancient Egyptians, who placed them at the entrance of a temple, marking it as a zone of sun worship.

They represent the Sun God Ra, the Egyptians’ greatest deity; the creator of humanity, the source of all heat and light, the being on which man was totally dependent.

The most well-known Egyptian obelisk was re-erected in 1586 A.D., in front of St. Peter’s Basilica. It is surrounded by a sun wheel, with the points lining up with the Vernal Equinox, the Summer Solstice and the Winter Solstice.

During the sunrise on the Vernal Equinox, the sun causes the obelisk to cast its shadow onto the dome of St. Peter’s Basilica, which represents the sexual union of the sun god and moon goddess.

Another Egyptian obelisk sits in front of the Pantheon of ancient Rome, which housed statues of their pagan gods. The obelisk was originally constructed by Pharaoh Ramses II for the Temple of Ra in Heliopolis. It was brought to Rome in ancient times where it was used near a shrine to the Egyptian god Isis.

The Pantheon was dedicated to pan theos, meaning “all the gods.” When it became a Roman Catholic Church, it was dedicated to the Virgin Mary and all the martyrs.

God’s 2nd commandment says, “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God.” Exodus 20:4-5

Ask yourself, why does the Catholic Church venerate pagan monuments to the Sun god?

The six-sided star is the supreme symbol of Satanic tyranny.

satanic-pope-hexagramThe hexagram has been used by people such as the pagan Babylonians, Egyptians and Assyrians, to directly or indirectly worship Satan.

Helena Blavatsky wrote that “Lucifer is the true God“, and she incorporated the hexagram in the emblem of the Theosophical Society, which she founded in 1875.

Satanists, Luciferians, astrologers and witches use it to invoke the power of demons.

The six-sided star numerically equals 666 (6 points, 6 triangles, 6-sided hexagon).

Christians pass it off as the ‘Star of David‘ but the truth is that King David never used a star, so calling it a nice sounding name hides what it really represents. King Solomon used it in witchcraft, magic and idolatrous worship to Ashtoreth and to Moloch.

Stephen accused the Jewish leaders, “And you took up the tent of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, the figures which you made” “in order to worship them.” Acts 7:43

Ask yourself, why does the Catholic Church use the Satanic six-sided star?

The eight-pointed star represents the pagan goddess Ishtar, the lightbringer.

eight-pointed-star-vaticanIn Babylonian symbolism, the goddess Ishtar is represented by an eight-pointed starburst, and she is associated with the planet of Venus.

Ishtar was the Babylonian High-Mother-Goddess, the goddess of fertility, love and war. Her cult was the most important one in ancient Babylon.

An eight-point star enclosed within a circle is the symbol for the sun god, as it’s points represent the solstices and equinoxes.

The “Babylonian star-cult is the core and the archetype of subsequent astrology.”

At the center of St. Peter’s Basilica, the Pope sits in the middle of eight 8-sided stars.

Ask yourself, why does the Catholic Church use the eight-pointed star of Ishtar?

The Maltese Cross represents Shamash, the god of the Sun and Justice.

maltese-cross-sun-godIn the image, an ancient Assyrian king is wearing a cross on his chest, just like the one seen on the Pope’s robe.

Shamash (Akkadian Šamaš “Sun”), was a native Mesopotamian deity and the sun god in the Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian pantheons.

Shamash was the god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu.

This cross was identified with a Sun god eight centuries before Christ and long before it was called the Maltese Cross by the Knights of Malta.

It’s also called the Iron Cross. Roman Catholic Adolph Hitler renewed use of the Iron Cross in 1939 and superimposed the Nazi swastika in its center.

Ask yourself, why does the Pope wear the cross of Shamash the Sun god?

Pine cones symbolize the worship of the solar god Osiris.

Pine cones represents the spiritual enlightenment of pagan gods on Pope StaffPine cones are associated with spiritual enlightenment by ancient Babylonians, Egyptians and Greeks.  They represent the mysterious link between the physical and the spiritual worlds, which can be found in the human brain, in the pineal gland.

The pine cone staff is a symbol of the solar god Osiris and originated in Egypt where he was their messiah who died for his people and whose Mother, Isis, was worshiped as the Virgin Mother.

The Vatican also has the world’s largest pine cone that once decorated a fountain in ancient Rome next to a vast Temple of Isis.

At the Old St. Peter’s Basilica, it was dedicated to Attis, son and lover of Cybele.  The Catholic Church then relocated it to what’s now called the Vatican Court of the Pigna.

Ask yourself, why do Popes use pine cones which symbolize the solar god Osiris?

Revelation 13 says that Satan the dragon gives authority to the antichrist beast.

The word Vatican means “divining serpent,” as Vatis = diviner; Can = serpent.

The Bible calls Satan the great dragon, who deceives the world.

So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9

Revelation 13 tells us that antichrist beast is empowered by the dragon to deceive the world.

So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” Revelation 13:3

Revelation 13 says that Satan the dragon gives authority to the antichrist beast, yet there's many dragons at the Vatican

Ask yourself, why does the Catholic Church use images of the dragon which represents Satan?

Friend, it’s obvious that the Roman Catholic Church is worshiping other gods, which is forbidden by the Bible.

God’s 1st commandment says “You shall have no other gods before Me.” Exodus 20:3

The Roman Catholic Church and the Pope have fulfilled many Bible prophecies, as the antichrist beast of Revelation.

Read this study to learn the truth: What The Bible Says About The Roman Catholic Church

References:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obelisks_in_Rome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbasilica_of_St._John_Lateran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_di_Santa_Maria_Maggiore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigna_%28rione_of_Rome%29

http://www.whale.to/c/churches_ill.html#Zucchettos__

Maltese https://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/me/s/stela_of_shamshi-adad_v.aspx

All-seeing eye: http://www.whale.to/c/churches_ill.html#Maltese_Cross_

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B. Ragan March 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm

You are very misinformed. Until Martin Luther rebelled against the Church, Catholics were the ONLY Christians……..for 1500 years after Christ!
And as for your symbolism comparisons, it’s ridiculous! For example, the 6 sided star is the Star of David, a symbol for the Jewish people. A 5 sided star in a circle is pagan (wiccan, to be precise )…….If the 5 pointed star is inverted it is a satanism symbol.
Please do your homework before you bear false witness against the true Church, the one founded by Jesus!

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David March 13, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Thank you for your comment. :-) Sadly, you are the one who is misinformed. During the Dark Ages the Roman Catholic Church banned and burned the Holy Scriptures, and killed people who had them, and who testified that salvation was through Christ alone, and not through the Papal Church and their sacraments.

The Papal Church only taught in Latin, and so there was a famine for the Word of God.

The context of Revelation 11 is that during the Dark Ages the Roman Catholic Church had banned Bibles and killed the people who proclaimed salvation by Christ alone, whom the Papal Church deemed as ‘heretics.’

The followers of Christ, the saints, had been persecuted so much, and so many Bibles had been burned, that in 1514 A.D., at the ninth session of the Fifth Lateran Council, the council orator exultingly declared: “Now, no one contradicts, no one opposes.” To the Pope he said: “The whole body of Christendom is now seen to be subjected to its head, that is to thee.”

The Catholic Church declared that the witnesses against them had been silenced, they were as good as dead.

They had been silenced, banished to the corners of the world, unable to stand against the Catholic Church.

Without the Word of God, the remnant was unprotected and they had no power.

The 1823 Encyclopedia Britannica records the time of the 3 1/2 years, “Everything was quiet; every heretic exterminated; and the whole Christian world supinely acquiescing in the enormous absurdities inculpated on them (by the Roman Church).”

Jesus’ Church had been silenced and deprived of power and opportunity of prophesying:, and was quite dispirited, cast down, and trodden under foot.

This caused Catholic Rome and the countries that supported them to rejoice, and they held great feasts to celebrate the end of the Protest-ants.

The splendor of the dinners and celebrations given by Pope Leo X and the Roman Cardinals on the triumphant close of the Fifth Lateran Council – a splendor unequaled since the days of Pagan Rome’s greatness – is the subject of a special record by the historian of Pope Leo X, E.B. Elliott.

During this 3.5 year time period, Jesus was having Martin Luther study the Word of God to be able to measure the true temple of God.

“Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple (naos) of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” Revelation 11:1

The ‘reed like a measuring rod’ is the Word of God, the Little Book of Revelation 10.

The Greek for reed or rod is “kanon” = canon of holy scriptures. Kanon is also translated as rule, or measuring rod.

“But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule (kanon) which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.” 2 cor. 10:13

They were to measure the spiritual temple of God, not a physical temple.

The Greek word for the physical temple is hieron. The Greek word for the spiritual temple is naos.

Ephesians 2:19-22 ”Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple (naos) in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

God was telling His people to use the Word of God to determine who was the true church, the Temple of God; and who was the false church.

At the time there was the true Church of Christ, and the false Catholic Church of Antichrist.

When Martin Luther measured the teachings of the Catholic Church against the Word of God, they were able to see that it is the false church.

He found no justification for a Pope or hierarchy of Archbishops and Bishops, just the five-fold ministry of the early church.

He found no place of purgatory, where people could be refined, so that they could go to heaven.

He learned that good works don’t earn salvation, they only testify to one’s faith in the Lord.

That he did not have to go to a confession box with a priest, but had direct access to Jesus the High Priest.

That bowing down to statues was forbidden.

That he didn’t have to count rosary beads, or pray to anyone like Mary, but only to the Father in Jesus name.

He found the simplicity of the Holy Communion, but no mass ceremony, and no wafer that supposedly becomes the body of Christ.

He discovered salvation by faith in Jesus sacrificial death and resurrection, not in works, and not through the Catholic Church.

He found that all of these things were strange and alien to the Word of God, and He testified that the Catholic Church was not Christ’ true church.

The only way to discern false prophets is to study and know the Word of God.

Revelation 11:2, “But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.”

The Catholic Church claims to be Christian, and many are misled by their message of salvation by works that is through them.

But that’s not the pure Gospel of Christ, where people are saved by faith in Christ’s atoning work.

Jesus was instructing Martin Luther and others, to prophecy against the Catholic Church, so that people could understand they can only be saved through Christ. And millions of people read the Word of God and were saved through Christ, and they went on to form the Protestant Churches.

The Catholic Church was delegated to the court outside the temple, as they are not the true Church of Jesus.

‘for it is given unto the Gentiles.’

This is not talking about physical gentiles, but spiritual.

Spiritual Israel consists of those who believe in Jesus as Messiah and are saved by His atoning work.

Spiritual Gentiles consists of those who are not saved, but condemned, because they don’t believe in Christ alone for salvation.

This is the Catholic Church, who teaches salvation by works through the Catholic Church, and all the Catholics who follow their teachings instead of Christ’s.

And exactly three and a half years after the 9th session of the Lateran Council opened on May 5, 1514, Martin Luther nailed his ’95 Theses’ on the door of the Wittenberg Church on October 31, 1517.

The 1823 Encyclopedia Britannica records what happened after the 3.5 years of silence, “in 1517, the empire of superstition received its first attack (its death blow almost) from Martin Luther.”

Luther’s act was the defining moment that the Church of Christ came alive again, as it ignited the Protestant Reformation, where many came forward to testify against the Roman Catholic Church.

Millions of people came out of the Papal Church to be saved by the pure Gospel of Christ, which led to the formation of the Protestant Churches.

So the reason the Protestant Churches were founded in the 16th century, was because the Papal Church had so relentlessly sought to wipe out the true Church of Christ.

http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-two-witnesses-of-revelation-11-deception/

Here is a historical account of the followers of Christ proclaiming that the Papal Church is the Antichrist beast of Revelation, the Little Horn of Daniel, and the office of the papacy, the Son of Perdition. Many of them were burned at the stake for their testimony.
http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/historic-witnesses-against-the-antichrist-roman-beast-the-popes-of-rome/

Grace and peace to you in Christ’s name,
David

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Krishnamurti: On Belief in God

Posted: February 2, 2015 in Philosophy, Spirit
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Question: Belief in God has been a powerful incentive to better living. Why do you deny God? Why do you not try to revive man’s faith in the idea of God?

Krishnamurti: Let us look at the problem widely and intelligently. I am not denying God – it would be foolish to do so. Only the man who does not know reality indulges in meaningless words. The man who says he knows, does not know; the man who is experiencing reality from moment to moment has no means of communicating that reality.

Belief is a denial of truth, belief hinders truth; to believe in God is not to find God. Neither the believer nor the non-believer will find God; because reality is the unknown, and your belief or non-belief in the unknown is merely a self-projection and therefore not real. I know you believe and I know it has very little meaning in your life. There are many people who believe; millions believe in God and take consolation. First of all, why do you believe? You believe because it gives you satisfaction, consolation, hope, and you say it gives significance to life. Actually your belief has very little significance, because you believe and exploit, you believe and kill, you believe in a universal God and murder each other. The rich man also believes in God; he exploits ruthlessly, accumulates money, and then builds a temple or becomes a philanthropist.

The men who dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima said that God was with them; those who flew from England to destroy Germany said that God was their co-pilot. The dictators, the prime ministers, the generals, the presidents, all talk of God, they have immense faith in God. Are they doing service, making a better life for man? The people who say they believe in God have destroyed half the world and the world is in complete misery. Through religious intolerance there are divisions of people as believers and non-believers, leading to religious wars. It indicates how extraordinarily politically-minded you are.

Is belief in God “a powerful incentive to better living”? Why do you want an incentive to better living? Surely, your incentive must be your own desire to live cleanly and simply, must it not? If you look to an incentive you are not interested in making life possible for all, you are merely interested in your incentive, which is different from mine – and we will quarrel over the incentive. If we live happily together not because we believe in God but because we are human beings, then we will share the entire means of production in order to produce things for all. Through lack of intelligence we accept the idea of a super-intelligence which we call `God; but this `God’, this super-intelligence, is not going to give us a better life. What leads to a better life is intelligence; and there cannot be intelligence if there is belief, if there are class divisions, if the means of production are in the hands of a few, if there are isolated nationalities and sovereign governments. All this obviously indicates lack of intelligence and it is the lack of intelligence that is preventing a better living, not non-belief in God.

You all believe in different ways, but your belief has no reality whatsoever. Reality is what you are, what you do, what you think, and your belief in God is merely an escape from your monotonous, stupid and cruel life. Furthermore, belief invariably divides people: there is the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Christian, the communist, the socialist, the capitalist and so on. Belief, idea, divides; it never brings people together. You may bring a few people together in a group but that group is opposed to another group. Ideas and beliefs are never unifying; on the contrary, they are separative, disintegrating and destructive. Therefore your belief in God is really spreading misery in the world; though it may have brought you momentary consolation, in actuality it has brought you more misery and destruction in the form of wars, famines, class divisions and the ruthless action of separate individuals. So your belief has no validity at all. If you really believed in God, if it were a real experience to you, then your face would have a smile; you would not be destroying human beings.

Now, what is reality, what is God? God is not the word, the word is not the thing. To know that which is immeasurable, which is not of time, the mind must be free of time, which means the mind must be free from all thought, from all ideas about God. What do you know about God or truth?, You do not really know anything about that reality. All that you know are words, the experiences of others or some moments of rather vague experience of your own. Surely that is not God, that is not reality, that is not beyond the field of time. To know that which is beyond time, the process of time must be understood, time being thought, the process of becoming, the accumulation of knowledge. That is the whole background of the mind; the mind itself is the background, both the conscious and the unconscious, the collective and the individual. So the mind must be free of the known, which means the mind must be completely silent, not made silent. The mind that achieves silence as a result, as the outcome of determined action, of practice, of discipline, is not a silent mind. The mind that is forced, controlled, shaped, put into a frame and kept quiet, is not a still mind. You may succeed for a period of time in forcing the mind to be superficially silent, but such a mind is not a still mind. Stillness comes only when you understand the whole process of thought, because to understand the process is to end it and the ending of the process of thought is the beginning of silence.

Only when the mind is completely silent not only on the upper level but fundamentally, right through, on both the superficial and the deeper levels of consciousness – only then can the unknown come into being. The unknown is not something to be experienced by the mind; silence alone can be experienced, nothing but silence. If the mind experiences anything but silence, it is merely projecting its own desires and such a mind is not silent; so long as the mind is not silent, so long as thought in any form, conscious or unconscious, is in movement, there can be no silence. Silence is freedom from the past, from knowledge, from both conscious and unconscious memory; when the mind is completely silent, not in use, when there is the silence which is not a product of effort, then only does the timeless, the eternal come into being. That state is not a state of remembering – there is no entity that remembers, that experiences.

Therefore God or truth or what you will is a thing that comes into being from moment to moment, and it happens only in a state of freedom and spontaneity, not when the mind is disciplined according to a pattern. God is not a thing of the mind, it does not come through self-projection, it comes only when there is virtue, which is freedom. Virtue is facing the fact of what is and the facing of the fact is a state of bliss. Only when the mind is blissful, quiet, without any movement of its own, without the projection of thought, conscious or unconscious – only then does the eternal come into being.

 
Ralph Nader, longtime consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate. He is now organizing with the campaign, TimeForARaise.org. His latest book is Told You So: The Big Book of Weekly Columns, with an introduction by Jim Hightower.

Are we corporate fascist yet?

Posted: July 1, 2013 in Fascism
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Published time: April 11, 2013 13:54
 First, see what Ralph says. Then watch this video:

The financial crisis that washed across the globe in 2008 is just the latest economic disaster to hit the American people. The fall of too-big-to-fail banks and companies marked the latest chapter of a tragedy that has been unfolding for years.

Franklin D. Roosevelt once warned that democracy will never be safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. If such a scenario arose, Roosevelt said, that would be the very definition of fascism. Read the rest of this entry »

Is this the way things really are?.. Let’s find out.

Pease feel free to add opposing viewpoints and links and arguments and get all riled up. That’s what we’re here for.

Read more here

Who melted my car and the plane?

Posted: June 26, 2013 in 911 Truth

When you first saw this did something seem strange?, maybe even subconsciously?

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Flight 175 seems to melt into building.

Well maybe your weren’t totally crazy and your subconcious was working just fine.

Start clicking below and jump in.

The Star Wars Beam Weapons and Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)
(A focus of the Star Wars Program)

by
Dr. Judy Wood and Dr. Morgan Reynolds
(originally posted: October 17, 2006)meltedcar

Page 5: Toasted Cars

A reported 1400 vehicles were damaged on 9/11. [Reference] These vehicles had peculiar patterns of damage and some were as far away as FDR Drive (about 7 blocks from the WTC, along the East River). Vehicles had missing door handles for example, windows blown out, window frames deformed, melted engine blocks, steel-belted tires with only the steel belts left, and vehicle front ends destroyed with little or no effect on the back end of the vehicles. What could have caused such extraordinary damage? Portions of cars burned while paper nearby did not.

and it is debunked here:

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth debunk Judy Wood

and all debunked here:

The Real Truth Behind The Greatest Illusion Of All Time-9/11 by Brian S Staveley

Everything we have learned about the thermite controlled demolition of the twin towers resulting in 3000 deaths is an outright lie and put out by the government to keep us from the REAL TRUTH. Yes the government put out the story about the thermite. You will see why. This doesn’t mean 9/11 truth is dead. It just means the focus needs to be totally changed. Everyone has it all wrong.

Why They Didn’t Use Planes To Hit The WTC

For those who ask:
“Why would the government fake crashing planes into the WTC towers and thereby also having to fake all the crash videos when it would be much easier for them to crash real planes into them?”

(Video: Hezarkhani)

Here is why they didn’t use real planes to crash into the WTC and used TV fakery instead:

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More extensive rebuttal to the Cholesterol Skeptics claims:

ACCORDING TO THE MONICA STUDY,June 10, 2011

in men aged 55 to 64 years, 10-year population changes in serum cholesterol level alone explained 35% of the variance of change in fatal and nonfatal coronary events. (1) When comparing people within in the same country (more like a controlled study), less LDL is associated with less heart disease. Dr. Kendrick only told us about ONE exception. A subset of men with the lowest educational achievement who drink too much alcohol in Russia. They must be the only ones or he would have told us about the rest of them. Read the rest of this entry »

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/17/stephanie-seneff-on-sulfur.aspx

Heart disease, I think, is a cholesterol deficiency problem, and in particular a cholesterol sulfate deficiency problem…”

conventional medicine is seriously confused about cholesterol

Here it is:

http://actualcures.com/heart-disease-statin-artery-veins-cholesterol.html

Is Dr. Ravnskov also ignoring the awkward?,January 28, 2011

OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE

1. Michael Brown and Joseph Goldstein discovered that the number of functional LDL receptors on the surface of cells, especially liver cells determines the level of LDL in the blood. If the receptors are defective or too few in number, LDL builds up in the blood instead of being taken into the cells. Familial hypercholesterolemia (FH) is caused by the mutation of a single gene that does one thing; make LDL receptors. People with two copies of the mutation for FH have LDL levels 6 to 10 fold above normal and can have a heart attack as early as 18 months of age. People with one copy of the mutation have LDL levels 2 to 4 times above normal and develop clinical symptoms between the ages of 30 and 60. Dr. Ravnskov is in denial about the obvious dose response relationship. (1) In the era before the statins, FH patients aged 20 to 39 years old were 100 times more likely die of heart disease and 10 times more likely to die from all causes than someone in the general population. (2) In a later study, FH patients treated with statins lived just as long as people without FH. (3) Read the rest of this entry »

http://weeksmd.com/2010/09/high-levels-of-cholesterol-said-better-for-longevity/

http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/benefits-of-high-cholesterol

High Cholesterol is Good

taken from Faster Times

When Swedish doctor Uffe Ravnskov wrote his book the “Cholesterol Myths” in 2000, few people were publicly making the assertion that saturated fat does not cause heart disease. (OK, well, the non-profit Weston Price Foundation and its founders Sally Fallon and Mary Enig, Ph.D., were, but they were often dismissed as being a fringe group.) But today, several prominent voices are saying exactly that—author Nina Planck, science writer Gary Taubes, and journalist Michael Pollan among them.

As our national conversations about obesity and other diet-related chronic diseases continue, and provocative ideas such as a tax on soda and other sugary drinks are floated by public health officials, it seemed to me a good time to raise the question: if so many scientists, doctors, and other smart people think that a diet high in saturated fats and cholesterol is not the culprit when it comes to heart disease, then why doesn’t everybody in America know it? Why do millions of Americans still follow low-fat, low-cholesterol diets and why do cardiologists tell their patients to swear off eggs, steak, and butter? (And why, in heaven’s name, are our public schools banning whole milk?)

In an effort to better understand this controversial issue, I interviewed Dr. Ravnskov, who lives in Lund, Sweden, and who has just published a revised edition of his book, called, simply, Fat and Cholesterol are Good for You. He is also founder of the International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics.

An English Breakfast at London’s Columbia Road Flower Market

Hannah Wallace(Interviewer): What kind of doctor are you?

Uffe Ravnskov: I am a specialist in internal medicine and nephrology. I have studied the cholesterol issue for twenty years and published more than 80 scientific papers and letters about the subject and have also written two books in five languages.

HW: You’ve said that the “cholesterol campaign” is one of the greatest mistakes in medical science. Can you briefly define what you call the cholesterol campaign and tell us why you believe it’s a mistake?

UR: The cholesterol campaign is based on the false idea that [human consumption of] animal food and high cholesterol causes atherosclerosis and heart disease. It’s a mistake because high cholesterol is not dangerous to health; it is beneficial. For instance, high cholesterol protects against cancer and infectious diseases. Today millions of healthy people all over the world are taking medicine that may create muscle weakness, bad memory, bad temper, impotency, painful legs and cancer. But most doctors do not know it because they have been mislead by the drug industry and their researchers.

HW: But what about all the research that shows that diets high in saturated fat cause heart disease?

UR: No study has ever proved that saturated fat causes heart disease. More than 30 studies have shown that heart patients have not eaten more saturated fat than healthy people and at least 8 studies of stroke patients have found that they had eaten less saturated fat than healthy controls.

HW: It seems to me that there are two arguments being made here, and the distinction is, I think, important. Are you saying that eating high cholesterol foods does not raise blood cholesterol levels? Or are you saying that high serum levels of LDL (the so-called “bad” cholesterol) do not cause heart disease?

UR: Eggs are the most cholesterol-rich food because a lot of cholesterol is necessary to create a healthy, living creature. You can eat twenty of these cholesterol bombs per day and yet keep your cholesterol normal.

Even if your cholesterol levels should go up, there is no reason to be afraid because high cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease. Recent American studies have found that on average patients with an acute heart attack had lower cholesterol than normal and the risk of being dead three years after a heart attack was highest among those with the lowest cholesterol.

HW: In your mind, what are two of the strongest studies that contradict the theory that higher serum LDL levels causes heart disease?

UR: The first argument is that people with low cholesterol are just as atherosclerotic as people with high cholesterol—this was shown for the first time more than 70 years ago and has been confirmed again and again by more recent scientists. The second is that old people with high cholesterol live longer than old people with low cholesterol—and again, this has been documented in numerous studies. (This one, by Dr. Harlan Krumholz and colleagues at Yale followed 1000 elderly men and women for four years and found that twice as many of those with low cholesterol had a heart attack or died from one, compared with those with the highest cholesterol.)

HW: In Michael Pollan’s book In Defense of Food, in his chapter on “The Melting of the Lipid Hypothesis,” he describes a study that implicates trans-fats as the culprit for causing heart disease. Gary Taubes believes refined carbs are to blame. What do you think causes heart disease—is there another hypothesis that you think has more science behind it than the current lipid hypothesis?

UR: There is general agreement that atherosclerosis is an inflammation in the arterial wall, and also that bacteria and virus participate in some way, but few have realized that it is the microorganisms that may cause the inflammation. This is a hypothesis that I have presented together with Kilmer McCully, who discovered the association between high homocysteine and atherosclerosis. Our arguments, and we think they are very strong, were presented in a scientific paper this year and in a popular way in the last chapter of my new book. They are based on the fact that the lipoproteins, including the “bad” LDL, participate in the immune system by binding and inactivating bacteria, virus and their toxic products.

HW: And which study or studies do you think are the most convincing in showing that LDL cholesterol actually protects against infectious disease?

UR: If you inject bacterial toxins into rats they die almost immediately, but if you start by injecting them with purified human LDL, most of them survive. Normal mice die also, but mice with high cholesterol survive. Many studies have also shown that people with low cholesterol are at a greater risk of being infected than people with high.